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Name: Robert Victor
Birthday: 3/26/1985
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Interests: Philosophy - specifically the phenomenological movement. I try to have a strong grounding in Aristotelian-Thomistic metaphysics so I don't go off of the deep end. Less academic interests involve late nights with Tolkien and 'Firefly' shows. Oh yeah, and beer..definitely beer.
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| The EWTN special on Summorum Pontificum was...interesting.
Caller: My question is that I am a guitarist and I have been serving at the Mass for 27 odd years and I can remember the old Mass as a child. My question is how can I as a guitarist fit in in the Latin Mass.
Raymond Arroyo: Fr. Kenneth Baker I will let you take a shot at that one.
Fr. Baker: I can say well get a nice missal with Latin on one side and English on the other and attend it, but don't bring your guitar. Because a guitar is not a liturgical instrument for the Traditional Latin Mass. It's the organ or various kinds of musicians. The guitar doesn't fit into that. It's not part of the ritual. I think it is important to realize that the Mass of Blessed John XXIII it's all set exactly how it is suppose to be done. That is people have to learn that when they receive Communion that they have to kneel to receive Communion, they have to receive Communion on the tongue and things like that. There are no altar girls allowed for the Latin Mass and these are the rules and this is the Mass that has been authorized. People are so far removed from it that many of them don't realize these things and it's why it is going to take time. I think it is going to take ten years for this thing to really come back, it will start really slow. The Pope himself says most priests don't know this and they are not familiar with the liturgy, therefore it is not going to be very common to begin with. But I think it is going to grow as time goes by one of our parishioners told me that he and his wife decided last night the difference between ordinary and extraordinary that Americans like things that are extraordinary and therefore the Latin Mass will attract a lot of people because it is now considered to be extraordinary. I thought that was interesting.
Hat tip: Curt Jester | | |
| I've been thinking about the Holy Father's strategy with the issuing of this motu proprio. Everyone knows that at least one of his motivations was that the wider presence of the Tridentine Use would influence the way in which the Pauline missal was offered. My question is...how? How will this be accomplished exactly?
In the Diocese of San Jose, we have one parish that offers the Tridentine Mass exclusively. Perhaps a better question may be: how can we influence the wider diocese in its liturgical practice? I have no doubt that the Holy Spirit will assist us, but what practical steps can we take in order to re-evangelize a diocese that is, at best, merely ignorant, and at worst, utterly hostile to not simply the Tridentine Mass but even the simple theological concept of the Mass as the re-presentation of Calvary.
Perhaps that is the starting point. If we convince people that the Mass is the mystical re-presentation of the Sacrifice of Calvary, perhaps all those things which we pray and hope for--reverance, interior participation, genuflections, chapel veils, etc.--will once more become the norm. The greatest victory, in my view, would be to see a truly reformed Pauline missal. To not have an "ordinary" and "extraordinary" form, but have one use of the Roman Rite that is reverant, beautiful, and truly efficacious in the way it is celebrated.*
I say all this not to discourage any of us...but to highlight the fact that despite this momentary victory...we have so much work to do.
May the Holy Spirit be our consolation during the long fight ahead. Amen.
*On a side note, the way the Holy Mass is celebrated by the Oblate Apostles of the Two Hearts is what I have in mind--the use of Latin, Gregorian chant and sacred polyphony, altar boys, ad orientem, etc. | | |
| It's out people! Huzzah! Huzzah!
I'm going to have a Motu Proprio Party, which includes me, a nice German lager, and by Cardinal Ratziner Fan Club Beer Stein...
Long Live The Pope
A Hymn for the Pope
Long live the Pope!
His praises sound
Again and yet again:
His rule is over space and time:
His throne the heart of men:
All hail! The Shepherd Pope of Rome,
The theme of loving song:
Let all the earth his glory sing
And heav’n the strain prolong.
Beleaguered by
By the foes of earth,
Beset by hosts of hell,
He guards the loyal flock of Christ,
A watchful sentinel:
And yet, amid the din and strife,
The clash of mace and sword,
He bears alone the Shepherd Staff,
The champion of the Lord.
Then raise the chant,
With heart and voice,
In Church and school and home:
"Long live the Shepherd of the Flock!
Long live the Pope of Rome!"
Almighty Father bless his work,
Protect him in his ways,
Receive his prayer, fulfill his hopes,
And grant him length of days! | | |
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